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Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Lawrence on Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:10 pm

What about Hungarian drivers? Were there more than two (Zsolt Baumgartner and Ferenc Szisz)?
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby D-Type on Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Johnny Cecotto - a Venezuelan motorcycle racer who drove for Theodore in 1983 and Toleman in 1984 and badly injured his legs in a practice crash at Brands. I can't think of any other Venezuelans.

Louis Chiron - the only driver of note from Monaco

Apart from Derek Daly who else has there been from the Republic of Ireland? Eddie Irvine and john Watson are both from Northern Ireland.
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Lawrence on Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:57 pm

Cougar wrote:The article mentioned Zsolt Baumgartner which I have included in my post. It made no mention of the other driver - Ferenc Szisz

I will have to do research on him.


Ference Szisz won the very first GP...the French GP back in 1906.

The list you have may be post WWII, although Wikipedia also claims that Zsolt Baumgartner is the only Hungarian Formula 1 driver (which may be correct as far as it goes, as "Formula 1" didn't exist in 1906).
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Sinister on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:19 pm

How about John Love from Rhodesia(Zimbabwe) ? Don't think there are too many F1 drivers from that place. :armchair:
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Sinister on Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:25 pm

No wait, I am wrong. There seems to be more than one from that country. :shy:
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Guy with a Beer on Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:50 pm

Bertrand Gachot the only one from Luxembourg?

And then we had that Israeli a few years back in one of the practice sessions who was a complete joke.
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Lawrence on Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:34 am

Guy with a Beer wrote:Bertrand Gachot the only one from Luxembourg?


I gather Gachot is French...he just happens to have been born in Luxembourg, and then raced as a Belgian driver for a while.
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Sinister on Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:27 pm

He is like me. He is not too sure which country he comes from. :hihi:
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Lawrence on Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:56 pm

D-Type wrote:Apart from Derek Daly who else has there been from the Republic of Ireland? Eddie Irvine and john Watson are both from Northern Ireland.


Tommy Byrne, Derek Daly, Ralph Firman, Joe Kelly, David Kennedy. These are all post-war drivers. Not sure how many pre-war drivers.

Surprisingly, there is not that many Irish-American race car drivers.
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby D-Type on Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:55 pm

Mario Andretti must be the only driver to have been born in three countries :confused: and race as a national of a fourth!
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Lawrence on Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:39 pm

Well, Andretti always raced under one flag. Gachot raced under two (Belgium and France) and Liugi Chinetti also raced under two (Italian and American). Not sure if anyone ever raced under three.
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby D-Type on Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:30 pm

Lawrence wrote:What about Hungarian drivers? Were there more than two (Zsolt Baumgartner and Ferenc Szisz)?

There was a Hungarian driver in the thirties who raced an Alfa Romeo painted in the red, white and green Hungarian national colours. but his name escapes me.
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Paul on Mon Jun 21, 2010 10:52 am

Lazlo Hartmann (Hartmann László)...
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby Mafia on Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:01 pm

Cougar wrote:
Ricky von Opel ... Born in New York but raced in 10 GP's in 1973 - 1974


Thats the maximum US contribution to F1 i guess :hihi:
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Re: Drivers from historically 'Non-F1' countries

Postby D-Type on Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:23 pm

Paul wrote:Lazlo Hartmann (Hartmann László)...

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